{"id":1420,"date":"2023-09-03T16:53:51","date_gmt":"2023-09-03T14:53:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/?p=1420"},"modified":"2023-09-03T16:53:54","modified_gmt":"2023-09-03T14:53:54","slug":"entretien-avec-sol-ferrieres","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/entretien-avec-sol-ferrieres\/","title":{"rendered":"Entretien avec Sol Ferri\u00e8res"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Epop\u00e9e urbaine pour Arthur Kramm, p\u00e9rilleux p\u00e9riple pour Robust le sauvage, \u00ab Deux contes d&rsquo;aride et de moisi \u00bb narrent les p\u00e9r\u00e9grinations de deux loups solitaires et sanguinaires dont la brutalit\u00e9 pourrait bien \u00eatre la face visible de la violence sourde et polic\u00e9e de la civilisation.<br \/>\nRencontre avec Sol Ferri\u00e8res pour la parution de ce nouvel ouvrage le 5 octobre prochain.<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>BOZON2X :<\/strong> Ton d\u00e9sir d\u2019\u00e9crire a-t-il une origine pr\u00e9cise ?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sol Ferri\u00e8res :<\/strong> Aussi loin que je remonte, c\u2019est le d\u00e9sir de raconter qui chez moi a toujours eu le dessus, et au d\u00e9but c\u2019\u00e9tait par le moyen de la bande dessin\u00e9e, o\u00f9 les mots et les dessins avaient une \u00e9gale importance. Mais, \u00e0 mesure que j\u2019avan\u00e7ais, s\u2019est petit \u00e0 petit pos\u00e9e la question de la place de l\u2019\u00e9criture stricto sensu dans mon travail. Je trouvais que l\u2019\u00e9criture, ou du moins le mot, en bande dessin\u00e9e, \u00e9tait enferm\u00e9 dans une cage. J\u2019ai assez vite voulu s\u00e9parer le mot de l\u2019image, et pour cela je me suis d\u00e9barrass\u00e9 du phylact\u00e8re. Les mots sont retourn\u00e9s au blanc de la page, en marge des dessins. J\u2019ai ainsi eu l\u2019impression de redonner, tant \u00e0 l\u2019image qu\u2019au mot, leur part d\u2019infini. En parall\u00e8le, je me suis aussi mis \u00e0 \u00e9crire des textes seuls, sans dessins.<\/p>\n<p><strong>BOZON2X :\u00a0<\/strong>\u00c9criture et structure narrative sont-elles d\u00e9termin\u00e9es par l\u2019univers graphique dont tu es issu\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p><strong><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1421\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/entretien-avec-sol-ferrieres\/illu-arthur-kramm\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?fit=2406%2C2145&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2406,2145\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Illu Arthur Kramm\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?fit=800%2C713&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignright wp-image-1421 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?resize=560%2C499&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"560\" height=\"499\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?resize=1024%2C913&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?resize=300%2C267&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?resize=768%2C685&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?resize=1536%2C1369&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?resize=2048%2C1826&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?resize=560%2C499&amp;ssl=1 560w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?resize=260%2C232&amp;ssl=1 260w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?resize=160%2C143&amp;ssl=1 160w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?w=1600&amp;ssl=1 1600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Illu-Arthur-Kramm.jpg?w=2400&amp;ssl=1 2400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/>Sol Ferri\u00e8res :\u00a0<\/strong>Oui, tr\u00e8s certainement. Je viens du monde du dessin, du graphisme et de la bande dessin\u00e9e. J\u2019ai travaill\u00e9 comme graphiste dans une agence de publicit\u00e9, et aujourd\u2019hui j\u2019enseigne le dessin. J\u2019ai aussi \u00e9crit et dessin\u00e9 <em>Grand Nord,<\/em> un roman graphique. Ma vision de l\u2019\u00e9criture passe forc\u00e9ment par le filtre de l\u2019impact visuel. Je vis mes histoires d\u2019abord comme des images, comme des films mentaux o\u00f9 l\u2019atmosph\u00e8re et les actions ont beaucoup d\u2019importance. C\u2019est ainsi que je me suis mis \u00e0 chercher une forme d\u2019\u00e9criture qui corresponde \u00e0 ma fa\u00e7on de vivre l\u2019histoire que je raconte. Le flux du paragraphe classique ne me correspondait pas, je voulais quelque chose de plus court et de plus direct. Ainsi sont n\u00e9es ce que j\u2019appelle les phrases-actions, ces mini paragraphes qui campent en quelques mots (parfois un seul) une situation, une pens\u00e9e, une action, etc. Cela engendre un rythme syncop\u00e9, une histoire en engrenage, o\u00f9 la fluidit\u00e9 classique est remplac\u00e9e par une autre sorte de flux, tout en grumeaux.<\/p>\n<p><strong>BOZON2X :\u00a0<\/strong>Ces \u00ab deux contes d\u2019aride et de moisi \u00bb m\u2019\u00e9voquent, par certains c\u00f4t\u00e9s, le Th\u00e9\u00e2tre de la cruaut\u00e9 d\u2019Antonin Artaud. J\u2019ai le sentiment que tes deux protagonistes, aussi bien Kramm que Robust, symbolisent le vieux fond refoul\u00e9 de la civilisation. L\u2019art aurait-il pour vocation d\u2019exprimer cette atavique sauvagerie mise sous cloche\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sol Ferri\u00e8res :\u00a0<\/strong>Artaud est une de mes influences en ce qui concerne sa vision de la cruaut\u00e9. Il y a chez lui une volont\u00e9 de faire du th\u00e9\u00e2tre un lieu o\u00f9 s\u2019installe une cruaut\u00e9 ritualis\u00e9e, une cruaut\u00e9 esth\u00e9tis\u00e9e bien loin de la cruaut\u00e9 crue du cin\u00e9ma d\u2019horreur par exemple. Je ne dis pas que j\u2019ai voulu faire la m\u00eame chose, mais cela m\u2019a marqu\u00e9. Artaud fait aussi le lien avec d\u2019autres cultures, o\u00f9 le rituel et le code ont une pr\u00e9pond\u00e9rance que notre civilisation occidentale a perdue, sous pr\u00e9texte de se rapprocher du vrai et du naturel. Barthes fait un sort \u00e0 cette volont\u00e9 de naturel si ch\u00e8re \u00e0 notre culture, notamment litt\u00e9raire, depuis le XIX\u00e8me si\u00e8cle. Il y aurait beaucoup \u00e0 dire sur cette recherche du naturel, de l\u2019authentique dans l\u2019\u00e9criture, qui pour finir n\u2019y arrive pas. C\u2019est en passant par Barthes que j\u2019ai lu <em>L\u2019Etranger,<\/em> de Camus, que Barthes cite comme exemple de table rase, de retour au degr\u00e9 z\u00e9ro de l\u2019\u00e9criture, afin de tourner le dos au XIX\u00e8me si\u00e8cle. J\u2019ignore si j\u2019y suis parvenu, mais oui, moi aussi je suis pass\u00e9 par la table rase. Je ne voulais pas \u00e9crire comme Flaubert ni Balzac ni Zola. Je voulais d\u2019une \u00e9criture brute, qui aille droit au but. Ce c\u00f4t\u00e9 brut est peut-\u00eatre ce que tu appelles l\u2019atavique sauvagerie de la civilisation, et ce n\u2019est pas un hasard si Kramm et Robust sont de vraies brutes. Pour le dire autrement, cette \u00e9criture brute est de l\u2019anti-Balzac et de l\u2019anti-Flaubert. Me rapproch\u00e9-je plus qu\u2019eux de la nature et de l\u2019authentique? La cruaut\u00e9 est peut-\u00eatre le prix \u00e0 payer. Mais Kramm et Robust v\u00e9hiculent aussi une certaine critique sociale. C\u2019est notre monde, et nous-m\u00eames, qu\u2019ils voient \u00e0 travers leurs yeux, et ils n\u2019y comprennent rien. Je voulais rajouter que Sade n\u2019\u00e9tait pas un sadique. Si l\u2019art a pour vocation d\u2019exprimer la sauvagerie, je l\u2019ignore, mais une chose est certaine, c\u2019est que, dans la vie, disons r\u00e9elle, je suis quelqu\u2019un de tr\u00e8s doux.<\/p>\n<p><strong>BOZON2X :\u00a0<\/strong>Quel sens as-tu voulu donner \u00e0 cette mise en page aussi soign\u00e9e qu\u2019atypique qui ne laissera pas de surprendre certains lecteurs\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sol Ferri\u00e8res :\u00a0<\/strong>Comme je le disais, j\u2019ai voulu m\u2019affranchir du paragraphe classique. Autrement dit, j\u2019ai tent\u00e9 une \u00e9criture o\u00f9 pourrait s\u2019\u00e9panouir mon propre sens de la dur\u00e9e. Je vois le paragraphe classique comme le mod\u00e8le d\u2019un certain type de dur\u00e9e. C\u2019est tr\u00e8s bien, mais cela ne me convient pas. Si j\u2019\u00e9crivais comme \u00e7a, je n\u2019aurais rien \u00e0 raconter, parce que je ne pourrais pas installer ma propre dur\u00e9e. Cette mise en page me permet d\u2019installer une dur\u00e9e, un souffle qui m\u2019est propre, et de dire ce que j\u2019ai \u00e0 dire, avec le temps qu\u2019il faut pour le dire. Pour utiliser une m\u00e9taphore, je dirais que mon \u00e9criture s\u2019apparente plus \u00e0 la cascade et au torrent qu\u2019au roman-fleuve.<\/p>\n<p><strong>BOZON2X :\u00a0<\/strong>Quelles sont tes plus grandes sources d\u2019inspiration\u00a0? Litt\u00e9raires, musicales, visuelles\u2026 Et comment influent-elles sur ton imaginaire\u00a0?<\/p>\n<p><strong><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1428\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/entretien-avec-sol-ferrieres\/photo-04\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Photo-04.jpg?fit=1089%2C1141&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1089,1141\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Photo-04\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Photo-04.jpg?fit=800%2C838&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-1428 size-medium alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Photo-04.jpg?resize=286%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"286\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Photo-04.jpg?resize=286%2C300&amp;ssl=1 286w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Photo-04.jpg?resize=977%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 977w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Photo-04.jpg?resize=768%2C805&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Photo-04.jpg?resize=560%2C587&amp;ssl=1 560w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Photo-04.jpg?resize=260%2C272&amp;ssl=1 260w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Photo-04.jpg?resize=160%2C168&amp;ssl=1 160w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Photo-04.jpg?w=1089&amp;ssl=1 1089w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 286px) 100vw, 286px\" \/>Sol Ferri\u00e8res :\u00a0<\/strong>Qu\u2019on ne se m\u00e9prenne pas, j\u2019adore Flaubert et Balzac, mais mes plus grandes sources d\u2019inspiration sont certainement Camus, que j\u2019ai cit\u00e9, ou alors Borges, Vian, Hemingway, dont l\u2019\u00e9criture, tr\u00e8s visuelle, me fascine, le roman policier (je suis un fan de Maj Sj\u00f6wall et Per Wahl\u00f6\u00f6). Lautr\u00e9amont, bien entendu, mais encore et surtout Bataille, qui m\u2019a \u00e0 ce point marqu\u00e9 qu\u2019il y a eu, dans ma vie de lecteur, un avant et un apr\u00e8s Bataille. Mais je serais incomplet si je n\u2019\u00e9voquais pas la bande dessin\u00e9e am\u00e9ricaine des ann\u00e9es quarante et cinquante (Noel Sickles est pour moi un dieu), et surtout la musique classique contemporaine (Giacinto Scelsi, Luc Ferrari, Micha\u00ebl L\u00e9vinas, Wolfgang Mitterer, etc). John Cage, avec une \u0153uvre comme <em>One<\/em>, m\u2019a appris combien le silence peut \u00eatre d\u00e9terminant dans la continuit\u00e9 du sens. Lorsque la touche de piano c\u00e8de la place \u00e0 la suivante, il y a un silence qui, parce qu\u2019il laisse le temps \u00e0 la note pr\u00e9c\u00e9dente de s\u2019\u00e9vanouir (on entend la r\u00e9sonance du son, qui prend son temps pour dispara\u00eetre), est riche de sens musical. C\u2019est formidable, et j\u2019ai \u00e9crit des po\u00e8mes o\u00f9 j\u2019essayais de faire la m\u00eame chose en litt\u00e9rature: entre les mots, du blanc qui laisse au mot pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent le temps de s\u2019\u00e9vanouir. Bref, des textes avec autant de vides que de mots. Mes <em>Deux contes,\u00a0<\/em>c\u2019est un peu \u00e7a aussi\u2026<\/p>\n<hr size=\"0.5px\" \/>\n<p><b><a href=\"http:\/\/bozon2x.be\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1418\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/couv-deux-contes\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Couv-Deux-Contes.jpg?fit=809%2C1398&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"809,1398\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Couv-Deux-Contes\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Couv-Deux-Contes.jpg?fit=593%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-1418 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Couv-Deux-Contes.jpg?resize=174%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"174\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Couv-Deux-Contes.jpg?resize=174%2C300&amp;ssl=1 174w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Couv-Deux-Contes.jpg?resize=593%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 593w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Couv-Deux-Contes.jpg?resize=768%2C1327&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Couv-Deux-Contes.jpg?resize=560%2C968&amp;ssl=1 560w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Couv-Deux-Contes.jpg?resize=260%2C449&amp;ssl=1 260w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Couv-Deux-Contes.jpg?resize=160%2C276&amp;ssl=1 160w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bozon2x.be\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/Couv-Deux-Contes.jpg?w=809&amp;ssl=1 809w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 174px) 100vw, 174px\" \/><\/a>Deux contes d&rsquo;aride et de moisi<br \/>\n<\/b>Sol Ferri\u00e8res<br \/>\n325 pages<br \/>\nISBN : 978-2-931067-16-1<br \/>\n18 euros<br \/>\n\u00c0 para\u00eetre le 05\/10\/2023<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Epop\u00e9e urbaine pour Arthur Kramm, p\u00e9rilleux p\u00e9riple pour Robust le sauvage, \u00ab Deux contes d&rsquo;aride et de moisi \u00bb 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